tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post5958944355728480425..comments2024-01-19T03:54:02.341-05:00Comments on Marti Rulli, Author: Goodbye Natalie Goodbye Splendour (Natalie Wood): Mock Trial for Natalie Wood CaseMarti Rullihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-67518004209763419762010-12-14T02:52:47.032-05:002010-12-14T02:52:47.032-05:00Wow, this was great. :-) I can almost see it on a ...Wow, this was great. :-) I can almost see it on a movie screen!<br /><br />from KBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-58705868290472651442010-12-10T12:59:59.949-05:002010-12-10T12:59:59.949-05:00No, Dennis is not aware of any visits Wagner made ...No, Dennis is not aware of any visits Wagner made to Natalie's grave during the year Dennis lived with him after she died. When I learned that Wagner had given Dennis a home, I was suspicious--even of Dennis! It seemed too bizarre for me. But Dennis never said anything about it, only that he was still working for Wagner and that he felt uncomfortable staying on the boat where he had lived before Natalie died. When I witnessed Dennis start to deteriorate, mentally AND physically, I knew in my heart of hearts that something wasn't "right" -- but I never questioned Dennis on it. I knew if I did, he would not talk about it, so I tried to talk and act as normal as possible around him. Then he just broke down. It was, and always will be an unfair burden for him to carry.<br /><br />Does Dennis feel guilty? Of course he does, but it's a convoluted type of guilt. He did nothing to harm Natalie. He let Wagner diminish him that weekend, and he allowed the manipulation. In hindsight, he knows how, when, and where he should have reacted to Wagner differently than he had, but things are always easier in hindsight. But thoughts about it still bother Dennis and I doubt his uneasiness will ever go away. But -- and this is the God's honest truth -- over the years, whenever I asked Dennis the HARD questions about his part in that weekend, his answers were always delivered with TOTAL confidence that HE HAD NO PART IN CAUSING ANY HARM TO COME TO NATALIE AND NO PART IN THE RELEASING OF THE DINGHY. I INSISTED those questions be part of the polygraph, too. Not that I doubted him, but I knew there would eventually be people who would.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-14728198835554604682010-12-10T12:43:00.531-05:002010-12-10T12:43:00.531-05:00Marti -
While living with Wagner, has Dennis menti...Marti -<br />While living with Wagner, has Dennis mentioned visiting Natalie's grave with him or perhaps Wagner going alone?<br />Wagner has done evrything in his power to disregard Natalie and her memory except when it served his purpose, i.e. his 'biography;, which is a total joke. <br />Then he just used her to make himself look like a victim. Poor RJ.....Yeah, right!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-14604424497483832062010-12-09T20:35:58.715-05:002010-12-09T20:35:58.715-05:00Well, frankly, this would be a mystery harder to s...Well, frankly, this would be a mystery harder to solve than the mystery of Natalie's death because I have no clue who or what you are talking about and I'm through with this so please stop with the innuendos.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-69710091192231100692010-12-09T19:43:26.881-05:002010-12-09T19:43:26.881-05:00"that's not the case" if you don'..."that's not the case" if you don't know exactly who it is and don't know exactly what is being said then you better open your eyes and "listen to the voice" you're being made a fool of. In your position right now you trust no one, look for the one who always has an agenda and "listen to the voice" and compare, it's right in front of youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-61416217597512768762010-12-09T19:11:50.025-05:002010-12-09T19:11:50.025-05:00I'd like to see Wagner answer that last questi...I'd like to see Wagner answer that last question, Marti. I can see how all the others lead to it thus "leaving him stumped and stuttering", but it's the only question he would really need to explain, but he never will because he's a liar and more. I wonder what it's like to hold something so horrible inside for a lifetime because that's what he has had, a lifetime, while Natalie lies in her grave, robbed of motherhood, career, and life itself.<br />Terribly sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-67976823643064282312010-12-09T18:59:05.486-05:002010-12-09T18:59:05.486-05:00I do not have to evaluate my associates because I ...I do not have to evaluate my associates because I have no clue what that even means. It is impossible that any of the insane and inane remarks at the forum have anything to do with me or anyone I associate with, because, quite frankly, I don't "associate" with anyone I don't know and trust. If there are people who have associated themselves with me there is little I can do about that, but that doesn't necessarily mean I associate with them. Whatever is going on, I have no clue what it is. I didn't know whether to delate the comment above or to address it, but as you can see, I've chosen to make it clear that NOTHING going on that forum relates to ME in any shape or form. <br /><br />I started this blog only because the subject matter in GNGS is without end. It's a lingering topic and new developments or information always seems to arise, via those close to the subject or such as Roger Smith's account finally coming into view. I thought a blog would be an opportunity to help interested readers stay abreast of developments. Sometimes, I post things that helped me to write GNGS, or things that gave me insight into how to deal with certain areas of the subject. I thought people would get to know me a little better, too, and hopefully would recognize my truest intent. <br /><br />After Wagner's book that was full of fabrications about what happened the night Natalie died, I felt COMPELLED to present GNGS to the public. <br /><br />For those of you who can recognize truth, especially backed by the evidence and a CERTIFIED polygraph test by a professional, one of the BEST in the business, I appreciate your aptitude for grasping facts and truths, as it's clearly MENTALITY that rules both sides of this case. Do I think I'm better than Rasure and Salerno? No, but I sure know I went after the truth they neglected and left behind them. <br /><br />And, thank you to all who accept my explanation that the ancient billions comment meant nothing and was used out of context by a bitter producer, as well as prompted by her. That's the truth, and it's a really refreshing thing when someone gives a person the common courtesy of believing an honest explanation. I, nor Dennis Davern, have nothing to lie or hide about. <br /><br />When I "talk" I name names and can back up my claims. If you won't, or can't, please spare me the innuendos that someone I am associated with is causing havoc because that's not the case.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-83756244215974498502010-12-09T13:10:13.003-05:002010-12-09T13:10:13.003-05:00" I simply want nothing to do with the madnes..." I simply want nothing to do with the madness" Then you better evaluate your associates because it's an associate of yours that is causing the madness and that is unfair to you. And THAT IS A FACT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-89402974754923966922010-12-08T23:52:08.904-05:002010-12-08T23:52:08.904-05:00One more thing...I DO appreciate those defending w...One more thing...I DO appreciate those defending what's really at stake here over at the forum. I did see a few comprehensive, intelligent posts, and I know how difficult it is to let the wild voices dominate, but those voices "speak for themselves" -- the lies and innuendos are recognizable. But voices of reason and clarity are often necessary to keep things balanced, and I appreciate it. I simply want NOTHING to do with the madness.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-64410208670080901592010-12-08T23:46:07.109-05:002010-12-08T23:46:07.109-05:00Marti, Love these questions--very good logic.
Than...Marti, Love these questions--very good logic.<br />Thanks for clearing up the "Make billions" comment. The way you explained it above makes it perfectly clear the context in which you made it.Kevinrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-23237435606440469252010-12-08T23:42:54.218-05:002010-12-08T23:42:54.218-05:00Wow, thank you for these kind words of encourageme...Wow, thank you for these kind words of encouragement. The sheer mania going on at Frank Wilkin's forum is mind boggling. I wish I knew how to calm those people down, and I'm sure by even mentioning it I'll be called a thousand names and accused more of being behind it, but I have NOTHING to do with it, and want NOTHING to do with it and am grateful Frank is lenient enough so that kind of nonsense doesn't carry over to my blog. Those people are in a fury, ready to blow gaskets! I saw they mocked my Christmas Tree. LOL. That's a very old photograph,. Unfortunately, I haven't put my tree up yet, something I usually do right after Thanksgiving. I plan to get it up this weekend. Guess I'll have to snap a picture to prove I'm not a liar. How absurd. <br /><br />I guess that's what I get for my mock trial post. But, here's why I posted it.<br />As I explained, this was something Dr. Lyndon Taylor and I spent a night doing five years ago. We both recognize that Wagner can skate around most questions that should be asked of him. But, our goal was to simulate it to see the overall impression such evasive answers would leave with perhaps a jury. I posted it simply because I think it's interesting. <br /><br />I was the most fortunate person to have had the pleasure and working experience of my association with Lyn. He was brilliant on the Natalie case and worked his brilliance for five long years. His drift tests put Noguchi and the Island team to shame, debunking the bogus theories of how Natalie ended up where she was found. He calculated Natalie's weight in the ocean, factoring in ALL conditions. He supplied me the psychological charts the medical examiner didn't and COULDN'T match. He conducted interviews with the Island people involved that weekend, and well, he was the turning point for GNGS. There would be no book without him. He is a man of class, stature, a professer, a VP of a college, a business genious, and the nicest, brilliant man one could hope to encounter. He cuts to the chase. When he suggested the "mock trial" experience, it helped us to understand a lot of things. We weren't trying to sound like attorneys...we were ad libbing. Lyn's work and brilliance puts Rasure's and Salerno's work on the Natalie case to shame. And even if the novices choose to insult Dr. Lyndon Taylor, well, I think that forum frenzy speaks for itself. I'm addressing the forum mania only to reiterate how irrelevant that kind of behavior is to the mission to see justice for Natalie. <br /><br />There will never come a time to win an argument with stubborn ignorance because that kind of ignorance and rudeness is impenetrable, i.e., a waste of time and energy. I am humbled always by the intelligence of those who support true justice for Natalie. I have never and would NEVER physically harm anyone. People who CAN and DO, disgust me. Especially those who never have to answer for it. Thank you, each and every one of you.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-33981580782981885772010-12-08T20:40:51.309-05:002010-12-08T20:40:51.309-05:00I have Marti's best interests at heart too bec...I have Marti's best interests at heart too because I believe you feel justified in your search for justice for Natalie, Marti. I have read all the books about Natalie Wood. I want to speak candidly about my opinion of them all.<br /> <br />Although Suzanne Finstad's book would categorically be considered the best written in a literary sense ...please take no offense yet<br />:-) ... and Gavin Lambert's was transparent by page three, I also want to address Noguchi's book and Lana Wood's book. Noguchi's was an attempt to regain his reputation. He obviously fell victim to the shame of his dismissal and created a plausible theory which he probably convinced himself was honorable, but there were so many holes in his theory, any astute reader could argue him intelligently. Lana Wood's memoir was alot of emotion with clear indecisiveness over whether to pour on the sibling resentment or to highlight the sisterly love. I have no doubt she was "directed" and that it wasn't the end result she might have hoped for. <br /><br />Back to Finstad: clearly she wanted the "complete" biography, but she failed. It was tedious at best, although extremely well written. The endless quotes confused me.<br /><br />I recall reading in GNGS, Marti, where you talked about deciding to refrain from handing your years of research over to Finstad. I silently applauded you at that tense point because you made the right decision. Your book, in my opinion, deserves a place in history based on its content. I have no doubt, maybe long after we are all gone, it will be your book that is referenced in regards to complete truth and respect for Natalie Wood. <br /><br />I also know it took you a long frustrating time to give us your book, but I am glad it is here. Your effort is far more than worth the time it took me, with pleasure, to write you this comment. God's speed, Marti. I believe Natalie now can rest in peace. You've done plenty, and I thank you. Stay proud. <br /><br />K. DoughertyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-74563244545689066132010-12-08T18:54:22.504-05:002010-12-08T18:54:22.504-05:00Thank you, I just wanted to make sure my message d...Thank you, I just wanted to make sure my message didn't seem as though it was continuing. I think you gave very sage advice. It's nice to know there are still many people who have her best interests at heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-54709622648400309582010-12-08T18:36:55.340-05:002010-12-08T18:36:55.340-05:00Sorry, no infringement intended. I was the one who...Sorry, no infringement intended. I was the one who first said "do yourself a favor" ...<br /><br />A misunderstanding and nothing more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-25098070511654994502010-12-08T17:51:55.644-05:002010-12-08T17:51:55.644-05:00It is I, who agreed about the letters. Who are you...It is I, who agreed about the letters. Who are you? Or are you agreeing "again" regarding the subject? Clarify, please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-76388822063700910842010-12-08T17:12:27.016-05:002010-12-08T17:12:27.016-05:00I agree (again) you should NOT post the letters or...I agree (again) you should NOT post the letters or share them with anyone, even those you think are closest to you, as it appears they have turned on you also. I'm so sorry for all you put up with. I wish I could help. Keep your head high and your chin up. The fools who betray you, betray Natalie. Never forget that. She is your focus. I have never doubted it for a moment. Marti, I really admire you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-27728748549291670682010-12-08T16:16:12.034-05:002010-12-08T16:16:12.034-05:00These are a good representation of the questions R...These are a good representation of the questions Robert Wagner should be asked and expected to answer. The evasive answers you speculated he might offer, as I'm sure would be similar in actuality, proves this is a husband with something terrible to hide. Good job, Marti.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-54759884421403562772010-12-08T14:58:12.895-05:002010-12-08T14:58:12.895-05:00Thank you for the good advice. I will take it. I s...Thank you for the good advice. I will take it. I sincerely mean that. I really try to keep up with posts but really need the next few weeks. The mock trial post took me 2 minutes to pull from an old file when Lyn Taylor and I "performed" it in 2005. The explanations above took away close to an hour I can barely spare. I'm in the crunch of the holiday season with work and obligations and some social things too. This is the busiest season for me. I am also busy with several book-related happenings. I will post as much as I can between now and New Year's, and will be sure to post pertinent updates. If we can't get the case reopened as we now are into the 30th anniversary of Natalie's death approaching, I will be proud I gave it my all and rest upon the fact that the truth will always be available via GNGS for anyone who ever wants to accept it. That in no way implies I'm done, just pressured, as it just can't go past Nov. 29, 2011. It's time. Thanks, Everyone.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-34200291617524946762010-12-08T14:11:06.250-05:002010-12-08T14:11:06.250-05:00I agree. These are not innocent requests. Keep the...I agree. These are not innocent requests. Keep the letters to yourself and use them when it will really count.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-40672869777388087632010-12-08T14:01:53.667-05:002010-12-08T14:01:53.667-05:00Marti,
Do yourself a favor, keep the letters to y...Marti,<br /><br />Do yourself a favor, keep the letters to yourself. Beware of faked email ID's. Change your mind about sharing these letters. The ilk of what's out there isn't worth it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-56007455086911630752010-12-08T13:45:01.103-05:002010-12-08T13:45:01.103-05:00But, I guess they didn’t think we had a good enoug...But, I guess they didn’t think we had a good enough attorney to silence THEM! Our attorney answered them, showed the entire broadcast (they had edited the parts they wanted and showed it to lead detective Salerno. We have never heard from Wagner’s attorney’s since, even after the publication of GNGS because they know that there isn’t ONE THING in GNGS they would be able to prove inaccurate.<br /><br />At this time, we tried to contact Salerno (not yet retired) to give Dennis’s statement to authorities. Salerno would not accept the call. <br /><br />I have changed my mind about posting the actual letters that were exchanged here. Things are a little too heated right now, and I’m not sure who asked for the letters, but maybe you asked a tad too sweetly? Please email me if you are someone I know and trust and I will email you the letters. Those letters hold a lot of weight about how much Wagner feared Dennis's truth.Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-11251210221521594702010-12-08T13:44:15.138-05:002010-12-08T13:44:15.138-05:00It was after the Geraldo Show “Now It Can Be Told”...It was after the Geraldo Show “Now It Can Be Told” aired in January of 1992 that we started hearing from Wagner’s attorneys. They were all over us, demanding we inform them of our every move and contact with anyone in the media. Their stunning demands actually made our attorney laugh. But it wasn’t funny. They wanted us SILENCED and there were threatening legal action warnings. Mainly, they were going to have Dennis arrested if he didn’t stop talking. They claimed his original statement he signed was binding and he could go to jail for having signed it. It was ridiculous, because Dennis was willing to admit he signed a bogus statement drawn up by the attorney Wagner had hired for him. Dennis wanted the truth known, and we were being lured by media promises at that time. We offered ALL of our interviews for the sake of truth. NO MONEY exchanged between agreements, and we wanted to keep it that way. But, the Geraldo producer, who I’ve later heard is known as one of the most conniving producers in the business. Well, she kept repeating, relentlessly, about all the “millions” we would make if we would reveal that Natalie was not in the habit of taking the dinghy out alone.<br /><br />The night before the show, Dennis revealed to me in private about his suspicions about how Natalie’s coat got on her. The next day, when we were at the studio, the producer was mentioning how her little production would bring us millions. It was sickening. That’s not why we were there. We had been promised a panel of three attorneys and we were looking forward to their professional input. There was NO ONE there but us: Dennis, myself, and my friend Carol Lallier who had been helping with the book. After the few millions comments by the producer, I knew we had to get out of there, this show would not be beneficial. I asked for alone time with Dennis, and they unplugged the camera in front of us. The producer’s “millions” was buzzing in my head and I made a sarcastic remark to Dennis that went, “After what you told me last night, we’d make billions if we put that in the book” -- it was an off-the-cuff, sarcastic remark in reference to the producer’s “millions” lure – COMPARING what she said would bring millions if we revealed to the issue of Natalie’s coat being revealed. The comment was a stupid thing to have said, but was nothing more than a snide remark. Wagner’s attorneys thought they had all they needed to silence us. <br />(continued)Marti Rullihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16585177424159444524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-40652134724074723222010-12-08T12:28:14.213-05:002010-12-08T12:28:14.213-05:00Marti,
You stated " I had included in GNGS t...Marti,<br /><br />You stated " I had included in GNGS the letters that went back and forth between Wagner's attorneys and ours" "The letters were removed from the book by the publishers only for the reasons of book length" Since you were going to publish the letters anyways could you please post the letters here so we can view them?<br /><br />Thank youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-14733663545011731962010-12-08T11:06:30.603-05:002010-12-08T11:06:30.603-05:00I agree. This mock trial says it all.I agree. This mock trial says it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3866262301035927730.post-55376217206795973902010-12-08T10:56:55.853-05:002010-12-08T10:56:55.853-05:00He withheld the information about the bottle durin...He withheld the information about the bottle during the initial police investigation but that does not seem to bother Salerno. The police are no better than Wagner. They should be put in the hot seat also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com